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Friday, 17 February 2012

Aurochs Bull

An Aurochs Bull made by myself:









And for a size comparison with Anna Dobrowolska-Oczko's Gaur

31 comments:

  1. Gorgeous model, Harriet! Magnificent creature, too bad it's extinct.

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  2. Thank you Magda! Yes it's really sad it was extinct.

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  3. Beautiful replica, congrats

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  4. Beautiful work.
    A couple of things:
    1. The name is always aurochs, with a "S" at the end, singular, or plural.
    2. Since this suppose to be a bull, it should have large developed neck muscles.
    you can actually see these in some cave paintings.
    3. Aurochs bulls were pretty much black. The saddle coloration you have here is basically seen in domestic cattle that carry the e+ gene such as heck cattle.

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    1. Thanks for your comment. I didn't have many reference photos, only adaptations of what people thought they looked like and of course the skeleton, but even then I just couldn't find good photos. I do plan to make another one some day, so I'll take your advice and apply it to my next Aurochs, I plan to make a cow and calf as well.
      Thanks for correcting me on the name too, AurochS, I'll change the heading of this post!

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  5. I can sympathize with the lack of reference. I been trying to figure out what an aurochs would look like too. I've been doing illustrations on top of aurochs skeleton photos.
    This is what I have so far for a bull aurochs:
    http://phan-tom.deviantart.com/#/d4cjp89

    and for an aurochs cow:
    http://phan-tom.deviantart.com/#/d4d0ev7

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    1. Thanks for the links! They're fantastic drawings.
      I was thinking their bone structure is very similar to a Wisent, have you compared the skeletons? I just wonder if the Aurochs' back was more sloping upwards towards the hump/shoulders. Like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/bienenwabe/2092836115/ what do you think?

      Wisent skeleton http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakemjordan/5699314010/
      Aurochs
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/randomrupert/4087365490/

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    2. I have compared their skeletons to the wisent ,and they are similar,
      they're also very close to domestic cattle. One thing I found out about aurochs skeletons, is the people that put them together may not have done so correctly. The Cambridge skeleton, the last link you posted,
      I found to be unbelievably long legged when I drew over the top of it.
      http://i55.tinypic.com/2duxa1t.jpg
      I was able to calculate the height of the skeleton http://i53.tinypic.com/4v49qh.jpg
      and it came out to be the height of an average male aurochs, but when repositioned the bones, based on where the legs should meet the body, it became clear that it wasn't that tall , and when I checked the height, it fell within the range of the average height of a female.
      This also agreed with what other people were telling me. The Cambridge skeleton is a female.
      Another clue is cave art. This one is a tracing from La Mairie cave in France.
      http://grazers.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/la-mairie-1024.png?w=1024
      What's nice about this is that we have one artist that did a drawing of both bull and cow aurochs.
      My most recent attempt at drawing over an aurochs skeleton, and this is very rough, is here.
      http://i40.tinypic.com/5vn71f.jpg
      I've also been in contact with the people at Project TaurOs. The Dutch project that is trying to rebreed the aurochs by matching aurochs genome, and they told me the aurochs backs are more horizontal.
      From the cave paintings, and my own "research" it seems that the aurochs had a slightly more pronounced shoulder hump than most modern breeds, but not as much as a wisent.

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    3. Interesting, thanks for all the information and your latest drawing, I'd like to see it finished - this is one of the skeletons I used for my reference.
      I emailed a Danish Museum and asked if they could provide me with all round photos of their skeleton, but they were unable to help.

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  6. You probably already have this front view of that skeleton:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Aurochse.jpg

    I know the feeling of not quite having the reference you want.
    One thing I would like before I finish my latest aurochs is a perfect
    profile view of a perfect profile view of a Chillingham bull skull.
    I based my latest aurochs on a Chillingham bull skeleton, from the University Museum of Natural History in Oxford, placed
    over a photo of a live Chillingham bull. Then outlined the body, then placed that over the aurochs skeleton. Then I stretched the bones and outline of the Chillingham to match the aurochs,
    which I hoped would come close to the tissue depth of the aurochs.
    Unfortunately the skull of the Chillingham is turned slightly in the photo I have, so I won't have a completely accurate representation of
    the head on my drawing.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/browniebear/4734037591/
    Hopefully I can come up with some way to figure it out.

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    1. Thanks for the link to the Aurochs skeleton front on, I hadn't seen that angle before, that's a really good photo.

      The Chillingham bull does look very similar to Aurochs, too bad you can't find a good profile view, I don't suppose the Museum at Oxford would provide you with more photos?

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  7. I have a couple of more photos of that skeleton. You probably already have them, but just in case you don't, here they are.
    http://i43.tinypic.com/11t9bpc.jpg
    http://i39.tinypic.com/18zlnp.jpg
    http://i43.tinypic.com/243ou45.jpg

    I never thought of asking the museum for photos.
    Have you had any success doing that?

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  8. Well, not with the Danish Museum, but I think it's worth a try emailing the Museum in Oxford, maybe they're more willing to help!

    I've seen the first and last photos of the skeleton but not the middle one - thanks for that.

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    1. Thank you for the suggestion of contacting the University Museum of Natural History in Oxford.
      They were very helpful.

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    2. I guess I won't finish the aurochs bull based on the skeleton of the Copenhagen aurochs. I been informed it's a female, and when I calculated the height, it's pretty much has to be a female.

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  9. That's a shame, how annoying for you.

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  10. Hello, Harriet.
    I did kind of a photo Frankenstein type of thing for my latest attempt to see what an aurochs bull would have looked like.
    if yo would like to see it. it's here:
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7722289742_72d574ea26_b.jpg

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    1. He's great, thanks for showing me - how do you draw these, are they done on the computer or do you paint them?

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  11. I create them with a computer, but I do conventional drawings too, but basically just human portraits.

    My web page:
    http://phan-tom.deviantart.com/

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    1. Goodness your artwork is exceptional, I like the one of Clark Gable a lot. The way you do eyes is incredible, they look so real. You have amazing talent. I love graphite - I don't draw as much as I used to, but you've inspired me to get my Graphite pencils out again.

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  12. Hello Harriet,

    I finally finished another aurochs drawing.
    This one was drawn over the skeleton at the Lund Museum, and I used the Augsburg aurochs engraving as reference.
    http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/072/d/6/lund_aurochs_by_phan_tom-d5xl5xo.jpg

    Hope you're doing well.

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    1. I'm fine thanks, good to hear from you. Thanks for linking your picture, I just got really inspired to make another model of one after seeing your drawing.

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    2. Great, I'm looking forward to seeing your next piece.
      I found out something else that might be helpful.
      The aurochs skeleton at the Vig museum ended up being a bull after all.

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  13. Fantastic creation. I am thinking about designing a class for the visually impaired that covers the history of art, beginning with Paleolithic cave paintings. I could model an auroch as it appears in a cave painting to make the image comprehensible using touch, but searching for an auroch model to compare with the paintings, to show the naturalism of the body's contours, has proven difficult. I see that Starlux made one at one time, but it's not nearly so detailed or accurate as yours, by comparison. Any ideas where I might find a good model?

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    1. Thanks for your comment. I'm afraid I can't help you with finding an Aurochs, except that I may make another in the future, which I would take a mould from. This blog is actually closed now, I'm making one last post but after that I will only be posting at my new site http://harrietknibbssculpturesltd.weebly.com/blog.html

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  14. Hey amazing work with the figurine! I started sculpting and molding figurines too. Can I ask you how you proceeded to end up with this guy?! Clay sculpture?

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  15. Hey amazing work with the figurine! I started sculpting and molding figurines too. Can I ask you how you proceeded to end up with this guy?! Clay sculpture?

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    1. Hi Jessy, thank you. It's clay yes, Super Sculpey firm, with a wire armature inside.

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